Music

A couple of things I've been reading lately inspired this thread. One was in the questions thread, where someone pointed out that most Python fans are also Beatles fans. The other is the well documented connection between Python and The Beatles. So I thought we could talk about our favourite music. I'm a list maker, so here are a few from me:

Top 10 bands/artists;

1: Led Zeppelin
2: The Who
3: Bert Jansch
4: The Raconteurs
5: Black Rebel Motorcycle Club
6: Muse
7: Roy Harper
8: Wishbone Ash
9: The Beatles
10: Pink Floyd

Top 10 songs (lately)

1: Band of Skulls - Death By Diamonds And Pearls
2: Bonzos - Hello Mabel
3: Monty Python - Galaxy Song
4: Kate & Anna McGarrigle - Jigsaw Puzzle of Life
5: Dire Straits - Romeo & Juliet
6: Sia - My Love
7: The Beatles - I Want You (She's So Heavy)
8: Led Zeppelin - Ten Years Gone
9: Peter Nalitch - Black Oak
10: The Darkness - Knockers

Top 5 Albums

1: Roy Harper - Stormcock
2: Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti
3: Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
4: The Who - Who's Next
5: Beatles - White Album

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Here Comes Another One at 4:16 pm November 04

Sorry, don't know what happened to the end of that post. *bewildered shrug* Since I am still nattering on I might add that my favourite Django tunes are Bouncing Around, Blues, Blue Drag & St Louis Blues.

thewastelandr at 10:21 am November 08

Oooh yes all fabulous songs! What a true genius.

mrsCutout at 2:48 pm November 08

St Louis Blues is one of my favorite tunes!! Awesom!

TheRealGilliamFan: I like most types of music. However, if I were going to be trapped on an island and could only have one type of music with me - or if there were one radio station on the island - it would have to be prog rock. I think King Crimson and Yes are two of the greatest assemblages of musicians at any one time. If I could only take one album with me, it would have to be a Yes album. Not sure which one.

gruggywoof at 3:32 pm November 04

Wow, nice to see another Crimson fan! A truly amazing band. And I think I'd have to pick "Close To The Edge" as my desert island Yes album, with "Fragile" a close second. :)

TheRealGilliamFan at 7:32 pm November 04

It's really a tough call for me because overall I'd go with Fragile, EXCEPT I'd be tempted to go with 90125 just for Leave It - cuz I don't think I could live without ever hearing it again.

Hey btw check out this animation for Epitaph:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KogHYeA0ns

gruggywoof at 6:24 am November 05

Hey, that's really cool! "Epitaph" is one of my all-time favourites, classic mellotron track right there. :)

Here Comes Another One: WTF?!?! moment of the day:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11672679

gruggywoof at 3:35 pm November 04

... Wow. "scholarly thinking", really!

genji at 10:43 pm November 02

NTF! moment.

Interesting comment about Seerauber Jenny, who have a machine that goes ping.

Here Comes Another One at 12:47 am November 03

Haha! Good one!

Tanya_Birklid19: I love the Beatles to death!! Well, I have a very wide variety of music, ranging from classical to heavy metal. I don't listen to today's country music. it's a load of bollocks, but I listen to Hank Williams Sr. and Johnny Cash, you know, the old country. I can say that my favorite song of all time is 'Walk of Life' by Dire Straits.

Here Comes Another One at 9:24 pm November 01

I love the Walk of Life riff. I quite like Dire Straits generally, esp. Romeo & Juliet.

mrsCutout at 4:10 pm November 02

Omg I love johnny Cash too! Wlak the line is amazing!

mrsCutout: I loooooove the Beatles1 I can't tel an album!But I do love Let it Be! And the White Album!And Revolver!......love pink Floyd and I agree my fave is the Dark side of the moon! Especially Brain Damage and Time! But I love all the songs!And Wish you were here! love the Who!and Led Zepelin ok!And the Animals! Ah I just have so many! And individuals as well!Does that count?cause then I could start from classical!

Here Comes Another One at 8:06 am November 01

Tell all, MrsC, you've got me interested! :-p

mrsCutout at 4:16 pm November 02

Haha ok!!! I love mozart and Shubert a lot! Tchaicovsky and Mendelson then! Ok I love Miles Davis and Luis Armstrong!the Elvis and many bands that followed!BEATLES!! Ac/DC metallica alright! David Bowieoh they're so many!!!!

Here Comes Another One at 4:20 pm November 02

Sounds like you have all-round good taste anyway. What seems to link us all most tho' is the range! Nobody's just a Top 40 listener so far, it seems like many Python fans have a wide-reaching appreciation of music, which is fantastic!

genji at 10:53 pm November 02

It's fantastic on one level - that Python fans are clearly not content to shuffle along the bottom of the tank sucking up the shit that Simon Cowell & Co. chuck out, which hopefully means (since I'm also a Python fan) that I'm not either.

On the other hand, if Python was more appealing to the millions of people who buy into the whole 'why don't you switch off your mind and sit and watch something more boring again?' entertainment production line then perhaps the world of entertainment would be a good deal more interesting.

Or something. I've only just woken up.

mrsCutout at 2:37 pm November 04

i am not quite sure I perfectly understood that last oone you said...Do you say that if Python was a bit less intelectual and a bit more boring it would appeal to more people and that's how we'd have a more interesting world of entertainement?Or I have got it all wrong! I am sorry I am just interested and i'd like to clear it out :D

genji at 11:27 pm November 04

I wasn't thinking in terms of Python being diluted or changed, more about the "Top 40 listeners" who are content to be force-fed drivel and who don't look for something that they might enjoy more. I think instead of "was more appealing" I should have written "appealed more", which is slightly different.

I don't know why I'm irritated by what other people want to watch because I very rarely watch television anyway. I think I'd just like to know that if I do turn the TV on that there'll be something on that interests me, which I find there seldom is.

mrsCutout at 2:52 pm November 08

Oh now i get it! Haha i am sorry for troubling you but now i see what you mean! Ok I agree with you completely! Not a big tv fan ,well even if I wanted no time toloose! But whenever I turn it on it's all garbage! Coocking shows silly reality shwos! Nothing!

genji: I don't have have a worthwhile contribution to this, which surprises me. It surprises me because I do write and record my own music, and I am very interested in music. I'm just finding it very difficult to name anything remotely approaching 'favourites'.

Classically I can say I prefer modern music and I scorn derisively all your Mozarts and Bachs, Brahms and Panties. That's not to say I think my preference is better, just that I don't understand those venerable, fusty, decrepit decomposers. I can appreciate their massive contribution to the evolution of music, I just can't feel it - kind of like The Beatles and 'Love Me Do'.

I love Stravinsky and I can say my single favourite piece of music of any genre is 'Symphony of Psalms', and it has been for a good 20 years or so. I also love 'Rite of Spring', 'Firebird' and just about any piece of Strav you can come up with.

After that it gets into preference for the piece rather than the composer. 'Daphnis et Chloe' is way up there for elevation above and beyond corporeal lugging meat around day after day. 'Sinfonia Antartica' (used in Python, incidentally) is way down there for bringing me back to earth.

I do also enjoy some Satie, Mussorgsky, Bizet and Chopin, and I am touched by the occasional Beethoven and Tchaikovsky but, for me, the 20th Century crushed everything that had come before it.

I won't go into pop music except to say The Mars Volta and At The Drive-In's 'Arcarsenal'.

mrsCutout at 8:03 am November 01

You write songs???That's great! Haha I am trying still! When I go to uni next year I'll try more!

thewastelandr at 10:47 am October 31

You can't feel the classical composers??? Please do me a favor and listen to Bach's St. Matthew's Passion, from start to finish, preferably in the evening in front of a roaring fire, and tell me you can't feel that!

I mean I know it's all down to individual taste, but come on! :)

I would like to hear which modern composers you are interested in. And also The Mars Volta are one of my favorites... de-loused in the comatorium... amazing.

genji at 10:57 am October 31

Bach just sounds like a computer writing music without any human intervention to me. It's all patterns and numbers, utterly and irredeemably soulless. I'll dig out 'St. Matthew's Passion' and give it a listen.

By 'modern' I'm referring to Stravinsky, Ravel, Vaughan Williams, etc. I don't mean Philip Glass or Michael Nyman. I have enjoyed Bartok and Boulez in other people's houses but I couldn't name you any of their pieces.

You're absolutely right that it's down to personal taste. I don't know much about music but I know what I like.

thewastelandr at 11:02 am October 31

I understand what you mean about Bach I think. When I first started playing piano, back 19 years ago at the age of 5, my teacher gave me all of his little instructional pieces to work on. They are very technical, mechanical, and functional, but they were meant to be so. His 'real' choral works and such are genius.

Ahh I also greatly appreciate Stravinsky, etc., but I don't know a lot of modern composers so I will need to check them out! Thanks for naming some names - I will see what I can find!

genji at 11:04 am October 31

Well, likewise I don't know Bach's choral works so I will also check them out. In time. :)

Here Comes Another One at 4:51 pm October 31

Shostakovich is good too ...

You write and record music, genji? Excellent! For a living or as a side thing? What sort of style? (I do too, but I only dabble. :-p)

mrsCutout at 7:54 am November 01

Hey! please! Nobody's like Mozart! He was devine! No one better than him!

Here Comes Another One at 8:01 am November 01

Mozart was pretty darn good. There's some sort of perfect symmetry about his music, yet it never stagnates. In other words: BADOO! (That is my word for things generally in the affirmative, & also a versatile greeting. Spoken in dulcit Smeagol-like tones ... and recorded by me as a text message tone to frighten all good train commuters, & some bad ones.)

genji at 10:32 pm October 31

Yes it's only a hobby for me, and they're not much good. I don't know what style - general pop I would say, guitar-based, but a friend calls them 'prog' (meant derisively, mainly because some are quite long).

I use an iMac with Logic Pro and an Apogee Duet with an M-Audio Axiom 61 controller keyboard.

Here Comes Another One at 11:27 pm October 31

I envy you, any proper equipment I've got is ancient! I have a 2-input M-Box c.2001, and a very outdated version of Protools. I've got a new Macbook Pro for work though, so I'm now mostly using GarageBand & a USB mic. On my old computer I had the M-Box hooked up thru GB & so could use my good mic, but when you only have time to record demos that seems like a lot of effort. My brother's got an M-Audio keyboard (tiny little thing but good) so I'm going to try & steal it when I get some time off! It sounds like I'd like your stuff. Mine tends to be acoustic singer-songwriter-y type of music, leaning distinctly towards the silly. My voice is reasonable but personally I find my serious songs tiresome, because I don't listen to much of that style, I just seem to write them. If I only had a decent electric guitar and a drum kit... *wistful sigh*

genji at 12:01 am November 01

Garageband is an excellent app, I think. It's much more like a cut down version of Logic these days. With it being a laptop I understand what you mean - plugging everything in and setting it all up. My kit's just set up permanently and I use my laptop for wasting time on the internet.

My songs are quite boring. I have no talent for melody and I can't sing. I just like adding layer upon layer of sound. :)

Here Comes Another One at 12:53 am November 01

I know what you mean, it's hard to know when to stop! I love layering up different synth sounds. I also tend to overdo vocal harmonies, multi-tracking my voice until it's just muddy, or no longer seems to fit the song!

genji at 1:03 am November 01

Yeah but it's fun. For me, once I abandoned any ambition of doing anything with it it became more about the process than the final product.

Vocal harmonies (especially with the unavoidable noise that creeps in from a microphone) need to be really exact to avoid the muddiness, and that's not something I'm capable of. I do occasionally record things stripped right down but then my melodies and voice are exposed.

the_thina: hehe, I think it was me poiting out that python-ans are into beatles. and I have a BIG beatles-phase right now... have been a an o them since I was about 3 yeras old, but sometimes I listen more, sometimes less.
but ok. my list. there WILL be a ew swedish artists there, but look them up on youtube, evene i you dont understand the words you can understand the voices.

th list with top bands/artists, whr thy ar on th list dos not man I like anyon mor or less, mmmkay?

beatles (+ john and gorge solo)
johan johansson
joakim thåström
nick cave
tom waits
ramones
ac/dc
stefan sundström

songs
georg harrison - got my mind set on you (childhood-memories! my first george-without-beatles-experience)
johan johansson - världens bästa dåliga exempel (youtube-sarch it!)
bonzo dog doo dah band - 11 mustachioed daughters
allan edwall - förhoppning (that one is on youtube as well)
joakim thåström - alla vill till himelen (that one too)
caroline af ugglas - snälla snälla (and this...)
nick cave - curse of millhaven
ac/dc - back in black
iron maiden - run to the hills
stean sundström - nästan som reklam (that is on youtube as well, and dont you think that he looks like mick jagger, but as a hippie?)
beatles - helter skelter (I GOT BLISTAS ON ME FINGAS! lol)

that is what I come up with now, but I just woke up

Here Comes Another One at 10:30 pm October 30

Ooh, some new music! (for me!) I've started listening to some of the ones you said to look for on YouTube: I like the Johan Johansson one, and also the Thåström one. Less keen on Sundström, though I agree that he's rather Jaggerish. You've also got three of my favourite songs on there: Back in Black, Helter Skelter and especially Run To The Hills! That's a real singalong at high volume one for me and I LOVE the drums in it.

the_thina at 9:29 am November 02

oooh, happy to hear you like johan and thåström! :D they are amazing, both of them old punkrockers and they are very close friends IRL. stefan is friends with them as well btw, even if you didnt go WOW over him. but lots o the meaning of stefans music (at least to me) is in the lyrics. they are very smart and often has a rather black humor worked into them.
and for the hardrock-songs, YES they are amazing! (and I count helter skelter as the worlds first hardrock-song) you know, I grew up in the 80s, and then it was impossible to not notice that music. :)

genji at 9:42 am November 02

'Helter Skelter' is a good one, I'll give you that. I'm not a fan of McCartney's output as a rule but that one was ok (excellent line from Walk Hard - The Dewey Cox Story: "will your songs still be shit when I'm 64?").

Are you guys aware of Bo Hansson over there? I really liked his music when I was a kid.

the_thina at 9:47 am November 02

well, Im not a big macca-fan either, I always liked john and george better, but helter skelter is amazing. :)

ooooh, yes, I know bo hansson very well. :) especially the lord of the rings-album, I can have that on repeat a whole day without getting tired of it. sadly he died a few months ago. :(

genji at 10:30 am November 02

Oh no! I didn't know that! How very sad. Yes, the Lord of the Rings album was what I listened to, but he also jammed with Jimi Hendrix and was well-respected in the late 60s/early 70s.

For the time, Music Inspired by The Lord of the Rings was groundbreaking in its sonic qualities. I've occasionally tried to incorporate his techniques into my own drab recordings but he keeps things so simple and pure that it's hard to pull off. Hendrix did an awful lot to make studio recordings more exciting but I never thought he matched Bo Hansson's subtlety.

the_thina at 11:21 am November 02

yes, it is very sad. it was in the spring or summer this year. :( but I guess since he was swedish the news of his death traveled quicker here than in the rest of the world, even if he was very well-known back in the days. and yep, I knew he played with jimi hendrix. :)

yes, his music was pure and simple. almost minemalistic but at the sime time mind-blowing. he truely was one o a kind. may he rest in peace

genji at 11:32 am November 02

I think I'll listen to that LotR tonight before bed.

the_thina at 9:55 am November 04

good call! I was listening to it when I first heard the news as well.

Mrs Attila the Hun 93 at 2:57 am October 31

Wow! AC/DC <333 and Helter Skelter is amazing

the_thina at 9:38 am November 02

oooh yes I adore ac/dc! :D angus young is in my humble oppinion the best rock-guitarist in the world

gruggywoof: Wow! Pythonliners have excellent taste, I must say. The Beatles connection is so interesting - and the very reason I got into Python in the first place! They didn't seem that removed from one another; two incredibly talented groups of men, and both were very very silly. :)

Here Comes Another One at 7:08 pm October 30

I got into Python & the Beatles at about the same time: Beatles from my mum & Python from my dad, both when I was in my mid-teens. Tapes & records of both ... then I spent my first viewing of L of B looking for George H's cameo, then realized I loved the movie too!!!

thewastelandr: I will have to applaud J. Gambolputty and second their list of classical composers. Beethoven is and always will be my musical god. Tchaikovsky, Bach, Strauss, Chopin, and Mozart all follow pretty close. As far as pop music goes...
1. The Beatles
2. Led Zeppelin
3. The Decemberists
4. Lovedrug
5. Tom Waits

And after that, they all kind of run together. I'm kind of a music addict! It's really interesting to read everyones' posts!